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August 21[edit]

Wiki for islands needs to include how they generate electric power..[edit]

There are often fairly comprehensive discussions on demographics, geography, weather, economy, education, etc but almost never how the island is powered and the cost of electricity - which is a key metric for the living conditions for heat, cool and the powering of lights and communications.. TV, internet, etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gross.larry (talkcontribs) 00:53, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Gross.larry you are free to add such information to any article where you think it is needed, but be sure to support it from reliable sources. Or you can suggest on the article's talk page adding such information.
By the way, these aren't "Wiki" they are "Wikipedia articles". "Wiki" refers to a type of software. "A wiki" is a web site set up using such software. There are many many wikis that are not part of Wikipedia. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:51, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

How do I report users?[edit]

Someone (IP address) blanked a page; after reverting their vandalism, I want to report them, but how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:02, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

You can file a report at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, but make sure you issue sufficient warnings first (see {{uw-vandalism1}} to {{uw-vandalism4}}). —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 01:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

using old news and advertisments[edit]

Hi My employer has a number of sources that we want to reference in the edit I made to the EFTPOS history page . These sources are:

A photocopy of a Asianet press release and short newspaper article pertaining to the release Photocopies of two advertisements that appeared in newspapers about mobile EFTPOS A photcopy of a webpage article on mobile Eftpos that no longer exists A short newspaper article about mobile Eftpos where it is impossible to identify the publication details

I wanted to be able to add these images to the references list on the EFTPOS history page but cannnot find a way to upload them even thought I think they may fall under the 'fair use' catagory. They are not available online at all. Could you please tell me how I can best add these references? Thank you, Jane Ede NPharaoh (talk) 03:23, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

NPharaoh, there is no need to upload such source documents, and doing so would almost surely be a copyright violation. There is no need for cited sources to be available online. You can simply cite by title of article, name of containing work (such as the newspaper), date of publication, and page number. If available, you can add the author's name, and the publisher if this is not redundant (for example, listing that The New York Times is published by The New York Times Co adds nothing of value). You can use {{cite news}} or {{cite press release}}. For a web page no longer live, you can use the internet archive's "wayback machine" to find an archive copy, and if one is found, use {{cite web}}
However, you mention "my employer". Please comply with our policy on paid editing. Make the required disclosures before making any further edits to the page, or indeed to any page you are being paid to edit. If i have misunderstood, and you are not being paid to edit (which includes being assigned to make edits as part of your job, even if there is no extra pay for the editing). This is absolutely required by Wikipedia's Terms of Service. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 04:02, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
@NPharaoh: DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 04:03, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Links in refn?[edit]

I was trying to put an external link to Google Books in a refnote, like so: (Sahaja article)

{{refn|group=note|See also [[Mouni Sadhu]] (2005), ''Meditation: An Outline for Practical Study'', [ pg. 92-93]}}

But it generates an error: "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page)."

I have no clue what's going on here, can someone help me with the right syntax? --Mathnerd314159 (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

The problem is that the value for the unnamed parameter in the refn template contains an = sign and this is not permitted. See the first bullet point at Help:Template#Usage hints and workarounds. The usual workround is to supply it as a named parameter 1 like this:
{{refn|group=note|1=See also [[Mouni Sadhu]] (2005), ''Meditation: An Outline for Practical Study'', [ pg. 92-93]}}
So far as I can see the refn documentation doesn't say this, presumably because it a matter relating to all templates. Thincat (talk) 10:41, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

New subtopics for country profiles[edit]

I would like articles about countries to include subtopics on human rights and women's rights (women in the workforce, access to healthcare and abortion, etc.), but I can't figure out where to make the suggestion. I thought the Templates topic might be the right place, but it redirected me here. --Hattrick (talk) 07:40, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@Hattrick: You can make suggestions about a specific country article by clicking the "Talk" tab on the article. You can make suggestions for Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries#Structure and guidelines at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. Note that articles are edited independently and editors of an article are not obligated to follow a WikiProject guideline, and may never have seen it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Welcome to Wikipedia, the encylopedia that anyone can edit. This means you. All contributors are volunteers. If you want this material included, feel free to do so. You are constrained only by our policies and guidelines and by the need to develop consensus if another editor disagrees with you. There are less than 200 countries, so you can finish this project by yourself in a year if you do four countries a week, or in four years if you do one a week. Do a few, then invite other editors to help, and you will achieve your goal more quickly. You do not need anyone's permission. You may wish to use a more neutral and inclusive topic heading such as "status of women". You may be able to start with a one or two sentence "stubby" section (with references to keep your section from being removed) Which may attract knowledgeable editors for each country. -Arch dude (talk) 15:35, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Please do not delete my site - revision requested[edit]

Hi there,

I created a wiki article which was reported. I think this page should not be speedily deleted because it is totally based on facts. Please note that this is my first article on Wikipedia and it may need some changes so please help me on how to/which parts to modify in order to be proper but not delete automatically. Waiting for your guidance and help. Thanks and regards, Franciska — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cserfranciska (talkcontribs) 10:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

There are some useful links on your user talk page, including to WP:Your first article. Haraszthy Vineyards has already been deleted, but your sandbox draft at User:Cserfranciska/sandbox still exists. It obviously isn't fit to be an article because it contains no references to published reliable sources independent of the subject. Some of the language is blatantly promotional, so if that is what Haraszthy Vineyards looked like it is no surprise that it was deleted. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:22, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Some of the text in the sandbox is apparently copied verbatim from web pages such as Such copyright violation is another cause for deletion. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:27, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

(Note for others) The article in question Haraszthy Vineyards, was speedy deleted as a G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion, On 5 August - X201 (talk) 10:16, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Article to be wriiten[edit]

I want article to be written on Faizullah Arain Pakistan Youngest Game Developer on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:40, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

  • First, review our guideline on notability, our policy on verifibility, and our specific guideline on the notability of people. Consider whether your subject clearly meets the standards listed there.
  • Second, read how to create Your First Article and referencing for beginners and again consider if you want to go ahead.
  • Third, If you have any connection or affiliation with the subject, disclose it in accordance with our guideline on Conflict of interest. If you have been or expect to be paid for making edits, or are making them as part of your job, disclose this according to the strict rules of the Paid-contribution disclosure. This is absolutely required; omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing.
  • Fourth, gather sources. You want independent, professionally published, reliable sources with each discussing the subject in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop; an article will not be created! Sources do NOT need to be online, or in English, although it is helpful if at least some are. The "independent" part is vital. Wikipedia does not consider as independent sources such as press releases, or news stories based on press releases, or anything published by the subject itself or an affiliate of the subject. Strictly local coverage is also not preferred. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. So are online equivalents of these. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the subject in detail. But those significant detailed sources are needed first.)
  • Fifth, use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for creation project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in the case of an editor with a conflict of interest it is essential.
  • Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. Cite all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use puffery or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed.
  • Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is declined, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. During this whole process, if you face any unresolvable editing hurdles, or cannot comprehend any editing issue, feel free to post a request here or at the Teahouse and ask the regulars. Repeat this until the draft passes review.
Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article. KGirl (Wanna chat?) 11:56, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Marvel?s Spider-Man[edit]


I typed |marvels spider man| into the search box just now, and get two suggested matches in the context dropdown:

"Marvel's Spider-Man"

"Marvel’s Spider-Man"

The difference being the type of apostrophe used - or maybe only one is properly called an apostrophe? One goes to a disambiguation page, the other directly to one of the disambiguated articles.

To make matters worse, in the dropdown itself (at least on my computer and as far as I can tell), the two symbols are actually identical in appearance.

It seems unlikely that this situation is intentional... but not impossible, cf for instance "Hawaii Five-[Zero]" versus "Hawaii Five-[Oh]", which I reckon is comparable in kind, though not quite in degree.

Either way, I'm hesitant to tackle this myself (if tackling it needs). :)

- (talk) 12:09, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

ps: I notice that they look more or less identical in my post also, meaning that the only place they become readily distinguishable is the edit box. Which uses a significantly different font (Courier?), so that, at least, makes sense, in its way. :)
- (talk) 12:23, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
It seems as though the second (which takes one immediately to: "Marvel's Spider-Man (video game) shouldn't exist as a search box option, since it is already listed in the disambiguation page [1]. Maineartists (talk) 13:12, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding User Talk Section[edit]


This is Meerja Maqbul Baig, Professional blogger, SEO Analyst wrote about me in User Talk Section. After 6 months my data is removed even with my website [ link. So can i why my info is deleted even it is 100% unique and genuine content.

Please reply must — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maqbul1233 (talkcontribs) 12:53, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I assume, Maqbul1233 that you refer to the page User:Maqbul1233. This page was deleted as promotional, under Speedy deletion criterion G11. Wikipedia is not the place to promote yourself or your enterprises. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 13:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Searching by edit size[edit]

Is there a way, maybe an external tool, that can order an edit list (user contributions, article history and/or recent changes, etc.) so as to see the largest edits first ? Thank you !--Nonztop (talk) 15:45, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

These lists are always ordered by time. Ruslik_Zero 20:45, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
@Nonztop: If it's of interest, xTools will show the list of top editors of any article and access their edits. Select the History tab of the article concerned; External tools - Revision history statistics; scroll down to Top editors; the list may be sorted on the right-hand column (Added Bytes); then for each editor near the top of the sorted list, click on "topedits" in the second column to see their individual edits, which are likely to include most of the major edits to the article: Noyster (talk), 19:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Frideswide Square[edit]

I have no idea where the name given to the area referred to as, "Frideswide Square" came from. I thought that it was part of Park End Street so could someone tell me who changed it? Troop Corporal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Troop Corporal (talkcontribs) 19:36, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

From Frideswide Square go west along Botley Road, under the railway line and over the Thames. After a quarter of a mile, you will see the church of St. Frideswide on your left. It takes its name from Frithuswith, the first abbess of a monastery that was somewhere in the area until Henry VIII dissolved it. Maproom (talk) 20:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

{{Empty section}} and {{Expand section}}[edit]

Is there a reason why the border of these templates flicker and disappear every so often? This has been bugging me for a while.--Nevéselbert 22:14, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I haven't experienced it in Firefox. In some browsers, if you zoom to less than 100% then a line 1 pixel wide may sometimes disappear. Zooming to 90% may for example remove 10% of 1-pixel lines when the browser decides how to reduce the size. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:48, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

edits being taken down[edit]

Hi Wikipedia

I have been trying to update the wikipedia page of New Zealand sculptor Chris Booth, with his permission. In late July I completely revised the page which had much out of date and some incorrect information and was set up by someone unknown to the artist, this was re-edited and reverted to the original and misleading text.

Yesterday I re-edited the text, with the permission of Chris Booth, only to find the same thing happen. I would like to add in more correct and up to date information and images of Booth's sculptures but need to find out why someone keeps on removing information.

Can you help please?

Many thanks Kelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by KLMC (talkcontribs) 22:47, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Chris Booth doesn't own the article. See WP:COI. Wikipedia articles cite and summarize professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:10, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Please keep in mind, KLMC, that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and the page you refer to is an encyclopedia article. The edits you made to that article might be appropriate for a résumé or a social media page, but they are not written in the dispassionate, disinterested style that one would expect to see in an encyclopedia. RivertorchFIREWATER 06:39, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Kelly. It is entirely appropriate that the article should have been written by someone unknown to the artist. The artist and their friends and associates have essentially no role in the creation and editing of a Wikipedia about them: they should limit themselves to making suggetions for improvements on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 09:38, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

August 22[edit]


How do I send a request to avoid/prevent deletion of my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dftba10 (talkcontribs) 01:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The main method, Dftba10 is to find and add to the article independent published relaible sources that discuss the subject is some detail -- not mere directory entries, playing stats, or passing mentions. See our guideline for the notability of sports articles. See referencing for beginners on how to do this. See your first Article for general guidance. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 01:56, 22 August 2017 (UTC) @Dftba10: DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 01:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Dftba10, DESiegel is 100% correct. I left an additional message on your Talk Page that I hope you find helpful! Cheers. Maineartists (talk) 02:11, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Dftba10, I like to look after Football articles and looking at this player, it doesn't look like he will meet WP:NFOOTY. He would need to play at a high enough level, which for India is I-League. You say he got an offer but using our normal list of websites [2], I can't find any information on the player. If you have some more information and/or they have played at a higher level, then please add that to the article otherwise it is likely to get deleted. NZ Footballs Conscience(talk) 04:07, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Help: can you remove the maintenance template?[edit]

Re Wiki entry for Gordon Parker (psychiatrist) I've fixed the issues that were raised by the previous helper. Can you now remove the maintenance template? Thanks for your assistance. Lookafter Thepennies (talk) 04:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The current template is for insufficient inline citations, Lookafter Thepennies. It is my view that quite a number are still needed. i have added {{cn}} tags to indicate some of the places I think citations are needed. I have also done some copy-editing on th4e article. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 04:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
For reference: Gordon Parker (psychiatrist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 04:23, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

How do I keep my article?[edit]

To whom it may concern, I am a member of a band and I have created a page about us. Am I to understand this will be deleted? There are other bands out there with wiki pages, how do I get my page published and get to keep it?
Thanking you,
Dave Bourke (XERO) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Bourke (talkcontribs) 10:49, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dave Bourke. The first thing you should do is to remove all the links to facebook and youtube since these do not belong in the text of an encyclopaedia. Since you have a WP:Conflict of interest, you are not the best person to write the article about the band, and it cannot ever be "your page". If you think that the band is notable in the Wikipedia sense (i.e. it has been written about in independent WP:Reliable sources), then you should create a draft at Draft:XERO, and move your text from your user page the there. The next step is to read WP:Referencing for beginners and find good references for the statements in the article. Articles about other bands are liable to deletion if they are unreferenced. Dbfirs 11:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Dave Bourke. The thing to remember is that Wikipedia has little interest in anything which a subject says about themselves, or that their friends or associates say about themselves; and it has no interest at all in how a subject wants to be portrayed. A Wikipedia article should be based almost 100% on what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it - good or bad - and should be written in a neutral manner according to a consensus of uninvolved editors. --ColinFine (talk) 12:29, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
OT where is this template taken from on WP? just curious. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 12:58, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
There's Template:HD, but I don't think the above is part of it. - X201 (talk) 13:13, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, but I'd like to know where this exact template (verbiage) is on WP.Maineartists (talk) 13:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Best course of action is to ping @ColinFine: and shine a desk lamp in his face until he spills the beans. - X201 (talk) 13:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Ha! Will do! Thanks! Cheers!Maineartists (talk) 13:57, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi ColinFine I've seen this template used before. Could you direct me as to its whereabouts on WP? Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 13:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
What template do you mean, Maineartists? I haven't used one in this thread. --ColinFine (talk) 22:48, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hmm. But I've seen this exact wording used before. Is it just your own reply? Maineartists (talk) 01:14, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I doubt if it was this exact working, Maineartists, since yes, I typed it out of my own head. --ColinFine (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I believe it would make a great template, though. :) –FlyingAce✈hello 17:42, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Metal foams[edit]

Dear Wikipedia experts, I tried many time to edit interesting videos and facts on the website "metal foam". But always my edited facts were deleted.

These are the following facts: - Metal foams are intresting for the application in dynamically highly stressed machines in machine tool building. Improved vibration damping in machine tools generally means a marked increase in the

 quality of manufacture, which generally turns operating costs lower or increases productivity.
 A good example for this is the Z-slide (constructed by the Niles-Simmons Industrieanlagen Chemnitz in cooperation with the Fraunhofer-Institut für Werkzeugmaschinen und Umformtechnik (Fraunhofer IWU) ) of 
 the machine tool Mikron HPM 1850 U, which has less mass, a higher dynamically stiffness and absorption and also it is the first massproduction of a machine-slide builted with steel-aluminium sandwiches.   
 More application areas for metal foams are heat shields, heat saggers, filters, catalyst support, sound-absorbing facing or the production of very lightweight, foamed roller for the print- and 

- Literature

     - Thomas Hipke, Günther Lange, René Poss: Taschenbuch für Aluminiumschäume. Aluminium-Verlag, Düsseldorf 2007, ISBN 978-3-87017-285-5.
     - Hannelore Dittmar-Ilgen: Metalle lernen schwimmen. In: Dies.: Wie der Kork-Krümel ans Weinglas kommt. Hirzel, Stuttgart 2006, ISBN 978-3-7776-1440-3, S. 74.

- Weblinks


I can't understand, why these things were deleted many times, because I think that this is very interesting and useful for people who want to inform themselves about metal foams. Especially the Z-slide is a good example for the application which has a good perspective.

I really hope you can help me and give me information how I can edit the information correctly on the website.

Thank you very much.

T. Hipke— Preceding unsigned comment added by T._Hipke (talkcontribs)

@T. Hipke: No comment on whether or not that content should be added or deleted but Youtube videos are almost never accepted as they are either user generated (not professional), or are advertising of some description, or are copyright violations. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Actually, Ian.thomson that is absolutely not correct. Many YouTube videos are absolutely reliable sources, although many more are not. For example, many news organizations post copies of news programs to an official YouTube channel. A YouTube video maut be checked just as any source must: Who published it, how reliable are they, etc. Copyvios are a particular concern on youtube, and user generated content is usually not acceptable. (However if it is generated by the subject of a bio, it will fall under WP:SPS, and be just as acceptable (but no more) than a transcript posted to the subject's own personal web site.) It is significantly more complex than editors who say "Oh YouTube, not acceptable" convey. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hence "almost." For most new users, it's easier for them to get it right if they view the acceptable videos as exceptions. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:46, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

changes keeps on changing back.[edit]

My notice: Hello, I'm 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63. I noticed that you recently removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I know Dr Micki Pistorius personally,

Most info on the page is not correct, for ewxample, she is not Catholic, nor family of Oscar Pistorius. Go and check out her " Who's who entry "

Lots of the media published the false news that Dr Micki Pistorius is family of Oscar Pistorius, BUT IT STAYS FALSE, GO and check out her family tree.

JUST BECAUSE MEDIA IS FALSLY STATING THINGS, doesn't make it true. isn't it the idea behind wikipedia, to get true facts out?

Thank you

The page in question:

ALL that is true on the article, and some add ons.

Verified by Liezl Kok ( Dr Pistorius publict ) Verified by Dr. M Pistorius herself

extended article content

as follow: Micki Pistorius (born 19 March 1961 in Pretoria) is a South African psychologist, public speaker and author. She was the first criminal profiler in South Africa from 1994 to 2000. Her hobby is Bronze Age archaeology. (1) Early and personal life[edit] Pistorius grew up and matriculated in Pretoria. She obtained her BA at the University of Pretoria and worked as a journalist for eight years at newspapers, magazines and radio and television, She married a fellow journalist and decided to study psychology at the University of Pretoria. She obtained her Honours and Master’s degree in Psychology (Cum Laude) and registered with the Health Professions Council of South Africa as a psychologist. Upon registration in 1994, she was immediately appointed as the first psychological profiler to the South African Police Service. Two years later she completed her Doctorate Philosophiae Psychology on the forensic topic of serial killers with the thesis: "A psycho-analytical approach to serial killers". She divorced shortly after joining the South African Police Service. Her private passion for archaeology and antiquity inspired her to enroll and complete an Honours degree in Biblical Archaeology at UNISA. (1) Dr Pistorius is a member of the following professional bodies and associations: • Health Professions Council of SA • South African Society for Clinical Hypnosis • Psycho-legal peer review group, Pretoria • Associate member: SA Clinical Neuropsychological Association • Institute of Family Mediators • Mensa – Pretoria Gauteng • Who’s who in South Africa • SA Archaeological Association In 2010 she was awarded the prestigious Laureate Award from the University of Pretoria’s Alumni Association as International Lecturer and Forensic Psychologist.(1) Career[edit] Dr Micki Pistorius pioneered the concept of psychological profiling of criminals within the South African Police in 1994 and is internationally recognized as a trail blazer in this specialized field. She founded the Investigative Psychology Unit and served as its Commander for 6 years. She resigned in 2000 with the rank of deputy director, equivalent to full colonel.(1) During her career in the SAPS, she designed and developed basic and advanced curricula and rolled out the two courses to train more than 300 detectives in the investigation of serial killer and related crimes. She was invited by Centre International de Sciences des Criminelles et Penales to train detectives and European profilers in France for six years, and she lectured and trained detectives in Britain and Namibia.(1) In 2000 she resigned from the SAPS, and she joined a private investigation firm, specializing in commercial crimes. Here she expanded her profiling skills to corporate and intelligence profiling. In 2002 she resigned and returned for a while to her career as a television journalist, writing scripts and presenting crime series.(1)

In 2005 she opened the doors to her private psychology practice to pursue a career as a psychologist, independent corporate consultant, lecturer, skills developer and author. Guiding regular people to deal with psychological afflictions such as depression, bi-polar disorders, anxieties, post-traumatic stress and other adjustment problems, was a welcome change for Dr Pistorius, who had by then reached a satiation point in working with criminals. Her therapeutic practice expanded rapidly and besides the above disorders, she found herself occupying a niche in relationship counselling and divorce therapy, as well as neuro-psychology and stress management. (1)

She continued lecturing on international podia for example at the Association of Psychology and Psychiatry for Adults and Children congresses in Athens, Greece 2010 and 2016. In 2016 she developed and presented a neuro-psychological course on training teachers on the adolescent brain for Schools Company in the United Kingdom. Locally she presents stress seminars on executive level to corporate companies; psychodietics: healthy food, healthy brain seminars to the general public and seminars to educational institutions on adolescent brain development. (1)

She authored seven books, six, published by Penguin SA. Books by Micki Pistorius[edit] • Heroes: A psychological insight into men’s perspectives on relationships. • Sorg Penguin (SA) 2006 ISBN 0-143-02519-8 • Skimme in Die Skadu Penguin (SA) 2006 ISBN 978-0-14-302517-7 • Profiling Serial Killers and other crimes in South Africa Penguin SA 2005 ISBN 0-14-302482-5[4] • Fatal Females Penguin SA 2004 ISBN 0-14-302440-X • Strangers on the street Penguin SA 2002 ISBN 0-14-100356-1 • Catch me a killer (autobiography) Penguin SA 2000 ISBN 0-14-029722-7[4] References[edit] 1 (updated 19/8/2017)

External links[edit] • Who's who entry

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hgit (talkcontribs) 14:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

If you know the subject personally, then you have a conflict of interest and should not be directly editing the article. You can request changes on the article's talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:26, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Writing a page for the company[edit]

I am an intern trying to write a page for the company I work for (ArtSpace 8). I have been instructed to copy the biography from our artist book and website. Wikipedia is sending me notifications for deletion because it does not perceive my source (our ArtSpace 8 catalogue book) as a reliable source. Please tell me how to change the occurrence from happening as I work for the company and your website is not letting me post our own information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshArtSpace8 (talkcontribs) 17:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

You need to read about conflict of interest, and paid editing. I am glad to see that you have now changed your and corporate user name. If you are copying from your company's catalogue it is not independent so not a reliable source, and if it has been published elsewhere you need to read about donating copyrighted material as otherwise its inclusion in Wikipedia would be a copyright violation. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:50, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
You might wish to inform your company that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a website that allows companies to post their own information. You have been given instructions to do something impossible. Sorry to make things difficult for you, but your company obviously doesn't understand Wikipedia. If your company is WP:Notable, then it will be possible to write an article about the company, but it will never be under the company's control. You need to find references where your company has been written about in independent WP:Reliable sources, and it will be best to write it in WP:Draft space so that it can be checked and improved before being published. Dbfirs 06:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Updating pages across different languages[edit]

Hi Volunteer at Wikipedia,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I work for Champagne Armand de Brignac and we were tasked with updating all of the content across wikipedia for Armand de Brignac to match that which is on the English version of Wikipedia. On the english Wikipedia, we have lots of content and it is all appropriately sourced and non-promotional, etc., and in some languages we only had a few sentences. So we went through the process of translating the full english text and I want to put it in the Spanish Wikipedia for example translated into spanish but it still recognizes that the articles are copy-pasted from another wikipedia article and won't let me save. Is there any way around this? Thank you!


AdB Marketing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adbcoordinator (talkcontribs) 19:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

For editing on the English language Wikipedia you need to read about conflict of interest and paid editing, but for problems swith editing the Spanish Wikipedia you need to ask there, perhaps at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:49, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Wouldn't there be attribution issues? Taking the text from the English version and then putting it on another language from a single different account? - X201 (talk) 20:02, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
They will need to use Es:Plantilla:Traducido de for the translated content. TimothyJosephWood 20:13, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


I'm not really sure where to bring this up, so I'm defaulting to the help desk. (It's not exactly appropriate for VPT because it doesn't involve wiki software.) Over the past several months, when following (and occasionally adding to references) links to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz (url is, I have noticed that various pages on the site—maybe all pages—make my browser go haywire. They defeat my pop-up blocker with not one but several pop-up windows. One of the pop-ups is supposed to be closable after a predefined period, but it cannot be reliably closed after that interval. In the meantime, other windows appear, some on the periphery of my screen where they're hard to grab, some behind the first window where they can't be grabbed at all. I have scads of memory and a pretty decent processor, and up until today all this was mainly an annoyance, slowing down Firefox (current version for Mac), occasionally to the point where a force quit was necessary. Today, things got a lot worse. The site appeared to grab control of Firefox to an extent I've never seen before: force quitting was impossible for several minutes, and after I was finally able to do that, Firefox could not be relaunched until I'd restarted the computer. At that point, checking my browsing history revealed that a total of 1,385 windows had popped up (all redirects to externally hosted pages). I have been unable to exactly replicate the problem in other browsers; pop-ups did occur but only two or three of them.

Haaretz is a major daily newspaper and generally a reliable source; we have more than a few links to it from refs in various articles. Nevertheless, the vast majority of newspaper-owned websites manage to avoid this kind of nonsense. This seems very much like malware to me. At the very least, it's piss-poor web design that we shouldn't be knowingly linking to. I'm wondering about the feasibility of blacklisting the site until the issue is resolved. Are there any brave souls running Firefox on Mac OS who might like to see if they can replicate what happened to me? Secondary question: anyone know of a WMF Labs tool to count the number of times a domain such as is linked across all articles? RivertorchFIREWATER 20:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

To answer your last question, 212 see Special:LinkSearch - X201 (talk) 21:09, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for that. So 212 pages link to some page in the domain. Not as many as I thought there would be. RivertorchFIREWATER 21:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello Rivertorch. You have to differentiate between automatic pop-ups and mouse-click (or event-triggered) pop-ups. Firefox will not allow automatic pop-ups from opening if you have checked the right box in your "Firefox>Content>Pop-ups>Block pop-up windows" preferences. However, blocking pop-ups using this option will not block mouse-click pop-ups or other event-triggered pop-ups. Rather than take up a project wide block of a reliable source like Haaretz, you could use the following option to block event-triggered pop-ups in Firefox.
  1. Download the latest version of Firefox and block automatic pop-ups ("Firefox>Content>Pop-ups>Block pop-up windows").
  2. In the address box, enter "about:config" (without the quotations).
  3. In the next page, confirm to Firefox you understand what you're doing.
  4. In the box you get subsequently, type "dom.popup_allowed_events" (without the quotes).
  5. Double click on the same and you'll see a list of events that are still allowed to trigger pop-ups.
  6. Keep removing one event at a time (or maybe a set of conjoint events) and check whether the event-triggered pop-ups were blocked; remove all the events if you want to control all types of event-triggered pop-ups, but that may interfere with normal editing (your choice).
This should work perfectly well. Write back if it doesn't. (Alternatively, if you don't want to follow the procedure above, simply press the <ctrl> button before clicking on any link; any event triggered pop-up that may open would open in the same frame rather than as a background window, allowing you to at least keep a track). Thanks. Lourdes 03:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I appreciate your taking the time to offer such detailed advice, Lourdes. As I said, I'm running the latest version of Firefox and I do have automatic pop-ups blocked. Unfortunately, even removing all events under dom.popup_allowed_events made no difference at all.
I believe these are both automatic pop-ups and event-triggered pop-ups. Simply going to the Haaretz url triggers one or more popups (the number isn't always consistent) that appear within a few seconds of the page loading (regardless of whether I've moved the cursor or typed anything), and attempting to close the first pop-up or any subsequent one triggers a cascade of new ones appearing one after the other until everything locks up, unless I quickly close the first window (and I mean very quickly).
It occurs to me that even if your suggested solution had worked for me, it wouldn't solve the problem that led me to post here. I can avoid that one site or use a different browser when visiting it, but by including links to Haaretz in articles, we are directing our readers to a site that may crash their browser—or even make their computer hang and require a hard reboot—if they're running Firefox, at least. I don't think this is acceptable. In the course of my cyber life, on- and off-wiki, I visit scores if not hundreds of different sites more days than not, and I haven't encountered anything like this in years—and never from the site of a reputable entity. Maybe there's a browser hack or an app that would fix it, but that's pretty much beside the point; we cannot responsibly expect our readers to take special precautions before following an external link from the references section of a Wikipedia article. RivertorchFIREWATER 05:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I understand what you're referring to Rivertorch. For me, the workaround works very well. I have Firefox on a Mac; I have disabled event-triggered pop-ups in Firefox using the method mentioned above. And I have visited Haaretz multiple times and clicked on multiple links without being affected the way you describe (normal ads do open, but within the same frame – like in – which you can skip). I've not experienced malware issues from Haaretz. Thanks. Lourdes 05:53, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I don't get it. I'll try a few more tricks and see what happens, but I'm pretty much stumped. RivertorchFIREWATER 06:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Drive by. Newspaper website works OK for me in Firefox in win10. -Roxy the dog. bark 17:56, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Double parenthetical disambiguation?[edit]

The title of Top Chef Romania (season 1), about a single season of a Romanian TV series, is inaccurate because the title of the series is now Top Chef Romania but Top Chef (see Top Chef (Romania)). The problem is that if we were to rename the season article to include the correct name for the series we would have Top Chef (Romania) (season 1), or possibly Top Chef (Romania, season 1). Biographical articles sometimes have doubly-disambiguating titles like John Smith (cricketer, born 1833), so I would lean toward the comma form over the double parentheses, but is there a guideline clarifying which of these is right? Or should something else altogether be used? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Arms & Hearts, the policy relevant to your question is Wikipedia:Article titles#Disambiguation. I believe the comma form seems more appropriate. In my opinion, this seems an uncontroversial move. Therefore, you can be bold and undertake the suggested move to the new title. Alternatively, you can start an informal discussion on the talk page of the said article to reach consensus (although I don't feel there should be much opposition). Thanks. Lourdes 02:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
The cricketing example used above, is also the way it is done with footballers with the same name, so the comma form is most likely appropriate. Eagleash (talk) 09:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Moved – thanks! – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:06, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

August 23[edit]

wrong photo[edit]

you have the wrong photo for Donald H Mcgannon — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:02, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

No, we don't, Google does. We're not Google. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:04, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. –FlyingAce✈hello 17:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Create a Wikipedia for Jason Innocent[edit] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:36, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

A draft is available at Draft:Jason Innocent, if you'd like to continue working on it (in a non-promotional manner, and after disclosing a possible "conflict of interest"). Please stop spamming the same links again, I have removed the duplicate posts. Also, the help desk here is "only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia" (see message on top of the page) - you can request an article at WP:Requested articles, if you don't want to continue the current draft version. You should also read and follow the advice on the IP talk page User talk:, as your IP has already been blocked once by Nyttend for disruptive promotional editing. GermanJoe (talk) 08:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Moreover, please find reliable sources if you're interested in writing about Innocent. All of these links are to ordinary popular websites: encyclopedia articles must be based on sources with solid reputations for fact-checking and reliability, and none of these present such an appearance. Nyttend (talk) 11:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Help merging[edit]

I created Isabel Alice Hartley Crawford yesterday and stupidly didn't notice that there is already a Isabel Crawford article - from the Isabel Crawford talk page, I see that I made a minor edit but lost track of its existence in the meantime. Since the article created yesterday is new and, on reflection, I think that Isabel Crawford is the more common name, should I simply add the additional information from the new article into the older article, and delete the new article? Both articles are orphans, and the new articles has no additional edits except adding the orphan tag. Leschnei (talk) 12:07, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

You're the only contributor, so get it moved back to your user space and then copy the material into the live article. - X201 (talk) 13:03, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks X201, can I move it back myself, or does an administrator need to do that? Leschnei (talk) 14:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
See WP:USERFY, its easier if an admin does it because they can stop the redirects being created ( you'll need to tag the for deletion using the template mentioned in the link. - X201 (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again X201, I've put in a request to have it moved. Leschnei (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Dhananjoy Chatterjee[edit]

The user "Godric on Leave" alias "Winged Blades of Godric" made several changes that are inaccurate at Without proper knowledge and frequently changing user ID, this user is putting inaccurate information, which I believe is against the Wikipedia policy. This user should be blocked from Wiki. Please have a look into the matter. It seems that this user has a bad intention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keepfaithintruths (talkcontribs) 12:17, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Keepfaithintruths: this is about a content dispute, and should be discussed on the article's talk page. I see that Winged Blades of Godric and others have already expressed their views there, and you have not. Maproom (talk) 14:11, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
... and now he won't be able to, as he and two subsequent sockpuppets (ironic, considering that he accused Godric of "frequently changing user ID") have been blocked from editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Multiple issues with article[edit]


I have edited the page of an organisation but it is advising me that there are multiple issues including; needs additional citations and not meeting Wikipedia's notability standards.

Can someone help me rectify these? I've tried to reference all content so am a bit confused.


Conor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cnrwhite1990 (talkcontribs) 13:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Cnrwhite1990. I should suggest that you read WP:ORG. All (except perhaps one) of the references currently provided in the article don't meet depth of coverage. The references you have provided are routine announcements of happenings in the company. There is no reference that discusses the company in detail (for example, its history, its legacy, etc). Yes, there is one source from The Independent that discusses the company's setting up – and that seems good. But one source is simply not enough. We need multiple reliable sources discussing the corporation in depth to prove notability as per WP:ORG. Therefore, the solution is to add at least one or two more reliable sources that discuss the company in-depth rather than provide plain news announcements about happenings in the company. Hope this provides the required clarity. If not, please do not hesitate to write back. Warmly. Lourdes 16:06, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Editing images[edit]


I work with the journalist and I am able to provide accurate information and new images to update content of her. Every image I try to upload it says that you are not sure if I own the rights... and I am not capable of uploading and update images. How should I go around and do that? I have all rights for the images as they are coming from her desk directly. Kindly let me know, I am new to this.

Rocio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossuadc (talkcontribs) 13:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hey Rossuadc. If they are "coming from her desk" directly, then it is probably her, (or a company representing her) who actually owns the copyright for the images. For the purposes of Wikipedia, it is not whether you personally have been granted permission to use them, but rather whether the have been licensed for unrestricted public use, such as that under a Creative Commons license. If the original copyright holder (usually the person/organization who took or commissioned the picture) would like to release it in this way, they may follow the instructions outlined at WP:CONSENT. TimothyJosephWood 14:42, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Questions about vandalism by a user reverting ClueBot NG's correctly identified vandalism[edit]

Here [[3]] I deleted the most recent repeated vandalism by User:2600:1:D70E:601C:E471:439:A55B:96AF here [[4]] I notified the ClueBot NG talk page about a question about an "Edit Summary" here [[5]] Where do I notify about vandalism in this case? It appears the the Administrators page is not appropriate, because warnings have not been given. Can this page qualify to be "semi-protected" because of repeated vandalism? Thank you, A ri gi bod (talk) 16:54, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

A ri gi bod ClueBot will in fact have given a warning {{uw-vandalism1}} on the IP's talk page. You on reverting the repeat vandalism would be justified in sending the IP a second-level {{uw-vandalism2}} or third-level {{uw-vandalism3}} warning. Please see Wikipedia:Vandalism#Warnings for more guidance. If a user continues vandalizing despite several warnings, then WP:AIV is the place to report this. If there is frequent vandalism of an article from different users or IPs, then you may ask for some level of protection at Requests for page protection (Twinkle facilitates this): Noyster (talk), 17:22, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Odd edit conflict[edit]

Writing this comment took several minutes, so when I saved, I wasn't surprised to see that I'd gotten into an edit conflict. I was presented with the contents of these edits to the same section, which correctly would cause the conflict, but also I was shown the contents of this edit, literally thirty sections higher on the page. Does the typical EC screen show you all the edits that have transpired since you started? I thought that it only showed you the conflicting edits, but that wouldn't be likely here. Nyttend (talk) 22:41, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

If any of the interveaning edits added or deleted a section, the section number may not have matched, causing the diff to et confused. This is not unlikely at ANI, where archiving and addition of new sections is frequent. In any case the diff function used by the edit conflict handler is not perfect. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:17, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Inserting photos in a page for a health institution -- page was created a year ago; updates of photos are not being allowed by Wikipedia system[edit]

Hi, thanks for any guidance with this. On a preexisting page for our health institution, yesterday I replaced the existing text with new text. Also, I'd like to insert three photos from our personal files (taken by our inhouse photographer), but am told I am not confirmed to have permission to do that now--that I need to wait at least 4 days. I am using our login, which should be confirmed because it was created more than a year ago.

If I wait four days, will I be able to insert the photos? I'd also like to insert a new logo from our files. Will that be allowed? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristendeem (talkcontribs) 22:46, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

You say you are using our login. How many at ARUP Laboratories have used this login? Some confusion may have occurred which we can soon sort out with more information from you. i.e. How many ARUP employees add information to WP using your login?. Aspro (talk) 23:19, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
P.S. Skip Schmiett, owner of Skip Schmiett Photography really needs to send in a OTRS, in-order that we can keep his images which appear in the ARUP article. Aspro (talk) 23:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  • @Kristendeem: Please be aware that the photos in question are almost certainly copyrighted. In order to use them here, which by extension allows anyone anywhere to use or modify them for any reason, then the copyright owner needs to follow the steps at WP:DCM. Because we do basically give away all content, we need to take those extra steps to ensure that we have the right to do so. CrowCaw 23:42, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Media Viewer[edit]

Hi wiki I am wondering why every time I turn off media viewer, it's off for exactly one media view and immediately turns itself back on again. I thought this would have been fixed long ago and stopped donating to Wikipedia until this was fixed. Any ideas on how long this will be broken? Briang7723 (talk) 23:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Briang7723; thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. We're all volunteers here who would strongly encourage you to consider that your donations (or lack of them) don't drive our responses. Moving on to your query, how are you switching off your media viewer? Is it through the "Preferences>Appearance>Enable Media Viewer" route? Alternatively, you can also disable the Media Viewer by adding mw.config.set("wgMediaViewerOnClick", false); to your global.js file. Hope this helps. Feel free to write back. Warmly. Lourdes 03:39, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
No, for example when the media viewer opens up, there is a gear with an option to disable it. Disabling it here is completely broken. I have a media viewer, actually, a number of them, with names like Chromium, Firefox, Chrome, eog, Edge, and Safari. I wish to use them as that's why I've installed them on my system. For WikiMedia to intentionally try to avoid that is, well, it's very rude indeed. With all due respect, I don't want to use their garbage media viewer. Moving on to the donation thing, donations or lack of them actually do drive responses, even for volunteers. It's a feedback cycle in which if the donations get too small, the site struggles to operate which means another site will overtake it. So lack of donations will in fact very much drive your response and other folks' response. The only thing at issue here is the magnitude of the difference. I'm sure if one person went to the trouble to voice their opinion, there are many others who didn't bother taking the time to let you know. Thank you very much for your time as a volunteer. I would appreciate any advice on where I could fix this media viewer problem. I understand this is open source, right? I'm a software engineer... Briang7723 (talk) 03:55, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello again Brian, while I feel you don't understand the basic philosophy behind this project and its volunteers, you're free to support or not support Wikipedia's initiatives. As much as I understand your media viewer issue, I believe you basically wish to disable the media viewer. If that's the case, just follow the steps mentioned in my earlier reply. Thanks. Lourdes 06:06, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

August 24[edit]

C1 control character in |title= at position 31[edit]

I've just found a weird error message in a citation I created. [6] The cite is reporting an error C1 control character in |title= at position 31. I can't see what I've actually done wrong here. Anyone able to help? WCMemail 23:41, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

I fixed this :-) Briang7723 (talk) 23:53, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks. WCMemail 23:54, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It was the use of a 'curly' apostrophe instead of a single ' type. Eagleash (talk) 23:58, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hacking images[edit]

I haven't seen this for myself, but see the message on this Talk:Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#www.cadsofttools.com_HIJACKING_Open-Source_Wikipedia_images talk page. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:35, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Bubba73, hope you're well. I see that The Anome has already taken up the issue at the said talk page. That's almost like sending Iron Man in to finish the job :D I think we don't need to do anything beyond that. Pleasure to see you around. Warmly. Lourdes 03:13, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, so I'm going to considered that it is being handled. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)