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December 9[edit]

I would like helping creating articles for 2 actresses who play roles on the tv series Star_(TV_series)[edit]

The 2 actress who play roles on Star named Brittany O'Grady and Amiyah Scott don't cureently have articles. Would these articles make good reliable sources: Callistoxena (talk) 05:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

None of those looks like anything near a reliable source, especially when we're talking about biographies of living persons. If these women are notable enough to call for an article here, there should be more substantial coverage of them, in more substantial publications. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
I agree.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

How do I upload an article onto Main Space[edit]

I have recently created an article in my sandbox that I want to upload onto main space however whenever I go to search for it, my article does not show up. I have tried so many things but can't get it to where there is accessible to the public. I hope you can help me figure out how to do this! Hope to hear from you soon! Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitchell3 (talkcontribs) 05:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

You seem to have solved the problem by editing an existing article, but ask again if there is still a problem. Draft articles in draft space or in sandboxes are not indexed by Google, but can be read and edited by any editor who knows about them. Dbfirs 08:12, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Seems to have lost my original Account??????????[edit]

I have been a member for quite a couple of years, and tonight apparently I do not exist!!!!!!!

Doesn't seem to have record on my account, which is odd, Why: Because I just gave them a donation a couple of weeks ago, so tell me where did my money go if not in the pockets of Wikipédia, which is scary and not very reassuring for my safety and ease of mind

I have tried high and low to get to a specific place to write all this down, nothing except here?????????

Thats not right cause I am sure not to give my e-mail here and how can someone who is NOT in the Administration correct the bug in your files?????????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myself33 (talkcontribs) 05:36, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

What was your other account? Without that we can't even look it up. Meters (talk) 05:55, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
@Myself33: This is a good place to ask for help but it's impossible to help without the account name. It seems unlikely to be a bug in our files. Don't give your email address. We don't need it and this is a public page. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
@Myself33: When was your account from? If from before the unified login for Wikimedia projects then it might have had ~enwiki or something similar added onto it. I also don't think that a Wikipedia account is needed to donate, so that might be some other account you are thinking of. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
@Myself33: Apart from the user account name, we could also start if you can tell us the names of some articles you edited. Every change is logged, so we can look at the history of those articles.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:17, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Citing a PDF source[edit]

Usually in a pdf file with multiple pages there are two series of page numbers:

  • actual "page number" in the file, as shown by the pdf-reader;
  • "page number" in the document itself, as written on the top/bottom of the page.

In several cases, these two numbers don't match: the same "physical" page could have two different numbers - because the "file numbering" counts also the cover, and maybe also an introductory section (e.g. an index), hence the first one is hgher than the latter; or becuse the file contains only a part of the original document (e.g a chapter), hence the first one is lower than the latter. In such cases, which number should we put in the page= parameter when we cite the document as a reference using a cite template? (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Document page number(s) if it's a book-type ref, Document article page range if it's a journal article Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:56, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jimfbleak, I'm not sure I correctly understood your explaination: in the second example (book-type sources), your reference is referred to this page (the one marked as number four) or to this page (the fourth one)? (talk) 15:19, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
It's the page with "4" printed on it, the one with a map Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:42, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
I would dispute the general notion that all journal cites must use the article's entire page range. In Editor Jimfbleak's journal example the page range is 305–315. That usage is fine for a bibliographic listing and where short citations are used ({{sfn}} and the {{harv}}-family templates, for example – because individual page numbering is part of that style) but for inline use, cite the page that supports the Wikipedia article text. Don't make extra work for the reader by requiring them to search through an entire journal article to find the supporting text. If the supporting text is on journal article page 310, use that in the citation.
Use the document's own pagination, not the pagination of the pdf file.
Trappist the monk (talk) 15:21, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
(ec) Does that (Bleak) entirely answer his question? Normally, always prefer the numbering visible on the pages. It may be easier if you don't use the cite templates. Then you can explain if you think it necessary. Johnbod (talk) 15:21, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Johnbod, it's up to you whether you use templates, I nearly always do because it makes it less likely that I'll make formatting errors. With regard to journal page ranges, it's what is universally done outside Wikipedia, and I don't think we should make up our own personal styles on this. I suppose that additionally adding a specific page number in parentheses might be OK if it's a very long article, but I don't do that Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:42, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Not "universally" - actually that's more of a convention in scientific subjects, and in my experience especially medicine, where references are generally expected to pick up only what is in the abstract, and picking up points from the middle of articles is not considered quite the thing. In arts subjects the convention is entirely different, and while page ranges may be quoted in the main biblio entry, references to specific pages within are expected where appropriate. Quite where railway studies (which seem to be the topic here) come, I wouldn't know. Johnbod (talk) 15:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Our own rules have this to say: "Cite the source clearly and precisely (specifying page, section, or such divisions as may be appropriate)" (WP:V), and "[pages= specifies] A range of pages in the source that supports the content ... do not use to indicate the total number of pages in the source." (Template:Cite journal) – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 16:13, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
The cs1|2 citation templates are our own 'made up' styles so using that to argue against identifying specific pages in the source doesn't hold much water. We should not be making the task of verification more difficult for readers but rather, we should make it as easy as is possible. Editors know (or damn-well should know) exactly where in the source the supporting text is when they write a cs1|2 template. It is a trivial matter for them to use that knowledge for the in-source location parameters.
Trappist the monk (talk) 16:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage poll[edit]


I left a message on User:Ron 1987's talk page to underline the fact that on the Template:Same-sex marriage opinion polls worldwide and Template:Same-sex marriage opinion polls Europe, there is a reference to a poll indicating that 64 % of the Dutch people agree with same-sex marriage. However, there is another poll (done by Eurobarometer, an official instrument of the European Commission), saying that 91 % of the Dutch agree. Since he has been reverting my edits on the excuse that the first poll is a few points more recent, I would like someone else to step in. The Eurobarometer relies on thousands of face-to-face interviews and since there is that significant difference between the two polls, I conclude that the first one must be wrong. Can someone else (other than me) tell him to stop reverting my edits on both pages to install the Eurobarometer poll (that is used on the same list for countries like Sweden or Denmark)? Thanks.

WhatsUpWorld (talk) 14:29, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Both Ron 1987 and WhatsUpWorld need to stop Edit warring, and follow the Dispute resolution procedure, which starts by discussing the issue on the (Template's) talk page, and at no point includes an appeal to the Help Desk. I see that you have at least opened a discussion on Ron 1987's talk page, WhatsUpWorld, but a demand to bow to your view is not a good way of starting a discussion. (I am not saying anything about the relative merits of the two views: I haven't even looked at them). --ColinFine (talk) 23:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

New tags[edit]

Hello to the editors at the Help Desk!

I have noticed a bunch of new tags have been added to Wikipedia within the past week, most notably the "rollback" tag that is added to every edit made using the rollback tool. Similar tags have been added to all the different language editions of Wikimedia sites (not just Wikipedia), and so I would like to know more about how this came about.

Thank you in advance! ««« SOME GADGET GEEK »»» (talk) 16:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Implemented in referring to phab:T73236 and phab:T167656. See also mw:Manual:$wgSoftwareTags. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

How come no one answered my question about the 2 actresses from tv series Star[edit]

I've been waiting for an answer. Callistoxena (talk) 19:08, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Callistoxena: We're all volunteers here, so please be patient. RudolfRed (talk) 19:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
You only asked this today. That is hardly a long wait. Please be patient. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:49, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

2018 MAC Football season — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:58, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

December 10[edit]

Khalid (singer) image[edit]

Can anyone get an image for Khalid (singer) article please? Theo (edits) 06:35, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@Theo Mandela: Please see here for a list of templates which can be used to make a request, and which should be placed on the article talk page. Eagleash (talk) 07:15, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Any image of the singer would do really, if anyone has taken pictures of him performing on tour and could upload them to the article or a PR image, thanks. Theo (edits) 08:59, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

History of my IP[edit]

Dear Wikipedia,

I have discussed many articles with my IP address but now I must see that my history has been wiped out???


J.P. Clifford (talk) 14:20, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

You have contributions from the IP used today going back to June 2016 here. IP addresses are subject to change from time to time (sometimes quite frequently). You can find contributions from an earlier address by going to an article you recall editing, finding your edit in the history and clicking on 'contribs'. It is unlikely that your history has been 'wiped out'... unless you were some sort of serial vandal / BLP violator / copyright violator! Eagleash (talk) 14:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Is RSS on wikis always delayed?[edit]

It seems like it is by at least thirty minutes. -- Mentifisto 16:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Adding a template - how?[edit]

Losing the will to live here ;) Hello lovely helpful pelple, I would like to add the template "Plays by Patrick Marber" ( to Patrick Marber's Wikipedia page ( as that would seem like a great place to put it, but have no idea what magic code to add to make it appear. I've tried opening up the editing page of the "Plays by" template to see what it might be called but adding that name made no difference. The help pages for using Templates don't seem to cover actually inserting templates into pages... thanks for any light you can shed. Why must it be so difficult to do such simple tasks, I've been a low-level editor for 10+ years and have to mentally steel myself every time I tweak a page. Hats off to those of you who've worked out what you're doing. JoBrodie (talk) 17:26, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi JoBrodie - Category:Plays by Patrick Marber is not a template, it is a category, A template, like, say Template:Plays by Athol Fugard, can be added at the bottom of an artists page, and to the article on each of his plays, to link to his other plays. The category just includes those articles to which Category:Plays by Patrick Marber has been added at the bottom. - You could link to the category, but, as all the plays are already in his list of works, that appears unnecessary. You could create a template Template:Plays by Patrick Marber - if you wish to do that, then I suggest you copy another template to get the syntax correct. - Arjayay (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Arjayay, I've taken off the category and added a template which a friend helped me find (or create). I got myself in a muddle but I knew the community would unmuddle me, thanks :) JoBrodie (talk) 18:21, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
I have corrected the "name" parameter in Template:Plays by Patrick Marber, as the VTE functions weren't working. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:39, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

December 11[edit]

Deleted article[edit]

The article in Question is Liberty Street Protest and I can not find out why this article was totally deleted, can someone please help? thank you -SFJ Search&dastroy (talk) 00:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

It was moved to Liberty Street protest and then deleted due to an expired WP:PROD due to a lack of proven notability. --Majora (talk) 00:25, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Why is there missing information regarding a particular actress taraji t Henson ?[edit]

She played in person if Interest!! Which was one of the most watch tv series — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:18, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Taraji P. Henson. Bus stop (talk) 03:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
There is also an article Person of Interest (TV series). Bus stop (talk) 03:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
What information is missing? The articles linked above seem to cover that person, or are you referring to someone different? Dbfirs 08:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
The series is listed in her TV credits. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:22, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Note the spelling in the header: the middle initial is "T", not "P". Probably our inquirer didn't notice the mistake. Nyttend (talk) 01:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Publishing issue[edit]


This is my sandbox but i can't publish the page.

Can you help me please ?

Thank you,

Mat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mubide (talkcontribs) 08:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

When you are ready to submit it for review, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. When you want to link to a Wikipedia page in a question, it is cleaner to give a wikilink, such as User:Mubide/sandbox, rather than a URL. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:33, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
One thing which you can usefully do while waiting for your draft to be reviewed is to remove the misplaced external links from the body text. Where appropriate you can turn them into references. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:56, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

subheading in other languages mobile wikipedias[edit]

I've noticed it's not present in English lang. It's a sort of summary and it seems not visible in desktop version and not editable either, am I wrong? Thanks (talk) 13:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

The summaries in the mobile version are taken from the database at WP:Wikidata, and are meant to be brief summaries. Which article's summary are you trying to change? - Arjayay (talk) 13:08, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:FAQ/Editing#How do I edit mobile subtitles? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

thanks. I was just curious about those strange charcteristics I've mentioned (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

The editors of the English Wikipedia disliked it and got it removed from articles but it's still displayed in mobile search results. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)



THANK YOU! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SIR FRANCIS CORNWALL (talkcontribs) 14:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Getting permission to edit Tom Segura's Page[edit]

Hello, I'm trying to appropriately update Tom Segura's page. He has a new special coming out. I also wanted to update the outdated links. I've done edits before, but only two. Should I continue editing so that I'm allowed to get the appropriate access. His fanbase loves to put in tidbits from his podcast, I realize, but I want to do update his page within the Wikipedia's guidelines.

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hidinginahoodie (talkcontribs) 15:56, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Hidinginahoodie. Your account is old enough, and your edits numerous enough, that you should be WP:autoconfirmed, and be able to edit Tom Segura]. Are you not able to? --ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Can you guys help my English please![edit]

I'm bad at English, can you guys help me checking this article? Thank you! Beyoncetan (talk) 16:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

I've corrected a few very minor grammatical details, but the translation (I assume it's a translation) is excellent English apart from a few unusual turns of phrase. I did wonder what article was the source of the translation. If I'm wrong and the text was your original creation, then please accept my apology for my error. Dbfirs 23:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
@Dbfirs: Wow thank you so much, Dbfirs! It's actually my translation! Thank you so much for your amazing help and for your kind words too! Beyoncetan (talk) 03:18, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Is it a translation of a Vietnamese Wikipedia article? If so, then perhaps a mention of this on the talk page with a link would be appropriate. The article has a long history, so is not purely translation, and the guidance at WP:Translation doesn't fit in this case. Dbfirs 07:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
@Dbfirs: No no, it's not a translation of the Vietnamese article. I wrote it with the sources that I've found myself. Beyoncetan (talk) 10:54, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about the misunderstanding. As you will have guessed, I can't read Vietnamese. You've certainly done a lot of research. Dbfirs 11:19, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
@Dbfirs: Aww, it's alright! Thank you again for your amazing edits Dbfirs! Beyoncetan (talk) 13:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Changing Languages and Sandbox Issue[edit]

Hello, I have created a draft of an article that I would like to have approved. My current account that I am using was originally made in German. Why does my sandbox only appear when I change wikipedia settings to English even though it's originally in German? Also, the draft has been rejected due to the fact that it is not in English. I am unable to transfer the draft to be submitted to the German Wikipedia website. Please help me figure out what I am doing wrong, and how to fix this issue. I have researched why the Sandbox keeps on disappearing and nothing has come up. Is it an issue others have as well? Also, I have tried multiple times to change the accounts language to German but it does not stay in German. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanula berdanopulou (talkcontribs) 16:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Fanula berdanopulou: There are separate Wikipedia version for each language, including and I assume that the sandbox you refer to is , at German Wikipedia, but written in English. What you need to do is not "change the accounts language", but log into the right Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

I have tried that already, but I am not able to access the sandbox when I log into the correct German Wikipedia. Fanula berdanopulou (talk) 11:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanula berdanopulou (talkcontribs) 11:13, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

@Fanula berdanopulou: As far as I can see, you have very similar (possibly identical, but I can't read German, so it's hard to me to verify) sandboxes in both Wikipedias:
en-wiki: en:User:Fanula berdanopulou/sandbox
de-wiki: de:Benutzer:Fanula berdanopulou/sandbox
There is also corresponding article in de-wiki:
de:Realistic Trash Polka
but not here, in en-wiki.
So, you don't need to submit your sandbox to the article space in German Wikipedia, as the article exists there already. Possibly you can apply some changes to it, based on your sandbox, but you rather don't submit a new version. Articles are generally expanded and improved incrementally, not replaced in the whole.
What concerns en-wiki, you can't submit an article in German language. You need to translate it to (or rewrite it in) English first.
HTH. --CiaPan (talk) 11:33, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Unable to add language links to newly-created article[edit]

I recently created the Machir Bay article, which I roughly translated from the German version. The article also exists in a couple of other languages. I figured out that you have this new (to me) process to tie articles in different languages together via Wikidata, where Machir Bay has ID Q1882686 -- and I was able to add the English article to that. The EN link now appears in the DE, CEB and SV articles that were already tied together. However the Languages section of the EN article remains empty.

I was reading Help:Interlanguage_links to try and figure this out. If I click on "Add links" under "Languages" in the EN article, and then fill in e.g. "dewiki" and "Machir Bay" to tie it to the DE article, I get this error: "The page you wanted to link with is already attached to an item on the central data repository which links to Machir Bay on this site. Items can only have one page per site attached. Please choose a different page to link with." That makes sense to me, as I understand the German article is already tied to a Wikidata ID. I would have thought adding the EN article to Wikidata would take care of the linking and the non-English links would automagically appear under Languages on the EN article, but that has unfortunately not happened.

This led me to read d:Help:Merge, thinking that the EN article I created was perhaps given a new/different ID on Wikidata when I created the EN article, and I could then merge the two, but I cannot find a "Machir Bay" entry on Wikidata with a different ID.

Having said all that... I just looked at and found that it is tied to the correct ID on Wikidata, apparently.

So then... why do the language links not appear? Thanks! F. Delpierre (talk) 17:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

The languages appear now. Sometimes you have to purge or edit a page to update the languages. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I think they appeared immediately after I made an edit, minutes after posting my question above, but I wasn't sure if maybe someone had done it and was going to post here, or if it had happened as a result of my edit. I'll keep this in mind for next time. Thanks! F. Delpierre (talk) 18:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
The inter-language links are there now. Perhaps it took a while for the cache to be cleared to implement the update? --David Biddulph (talk) 17:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I think they appeared immediately after I made an edit, minutes after posting my question above, but I wasn't sure if maybe someone had done it and was going to post here, or if it had happened as a result of my edit. Thanks! F. Delpierre (talk) 18:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)


Hi, just a quick question about ISBot. An edit I recently performed was reverted with the argument that it wasn't needed since the links aren't dead yet. That seems very strange to me. Surely we don't have to wait till the links are dead to use it, do we? This is Paul (talk) 21:19, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi This is Paul, hope you're well. As per WP:LINKROT, we shouldn't wait. I see you've already discussed the issue with the reverting editor Iggy the Swan who has confirmed that he won't revert again. I think it's just a small good faith revert by Iggy, nothing else. Thanks, Lourdes 00:46, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
No worries, thanks for getting back to me. Always good to check these things just in case. This is Paul (talk) 00:49, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

December 12[edit]

Abortion Clinics[edit]

Someone has maliciously​ edited this page. Can someone please re-edit/fix this page as what has been put there is quite nasty. Sorry I didn't know how else to get in contact with the website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:18, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to attention, I've removed the content in question. –72 (talk) 01:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Listing works in article[edit]

Can someone please list the works in this section of the article Ibn al-Haytham in a better and more appropriate manner? Swazzo (talk) 08:58, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Spurious entry in sortable table[edit]

Hey all.

I don't know much about sortable tables, so this may be an obvious thing to others:

List of highest mountains on Earth contains a sortable table of mountains - if I sort by "Rank" why does Nangpai Gosum appear first despite not having a ranking? All other non-ranked entries appear at the bottom where I'd expect them to. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Blank is treated as zero, and comes before number 1. I've dealt with it in the same way as the other blanks, see this edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:32, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Save changes or publish changes[edit]

I have noticed that the text which used to read "Save changes" now reads "Publish changes". Does anybody know why this change has happened? I go to Wikipedia: Village pump fairly frequently and I do not remember any discussion pertinent to change there. Thank you in advance for your co-operation in this matter.Vorbee (talk) 16:59, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

It also makes the By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use... text above it inaccurate as well - there is no "Save page" button anymore. Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:02, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
It's another confusing change made by the WMF, see WP:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Save Changes to Publish Changes. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:02, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Hmm. Not a problem for most editors to adapt to, I guess. But as it also says "Publish changes" when editing a Sandbox or a page in Draft, I do wonder how many brand new editors will come to the help desks, even more confused about why they're not actually publishing their article instead of just saving their changes. I assume the following key pages are scheduled to be updated very soon: Help:Introduction to editing with Wiki Markup/4 and Help:Introduction to editing with VisualEditor/4 and Help:Editing and presumably WP:TWA. Pinging @Whatamidoing (WMF): and @Evolution and evolvability: who indicated this would be actioned. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Related changes link[edit]

During the past week something has happened to the related changes link. Now when I click on the sidebar link for related changes on a subpage of my user page and hit refresh it shows the result of the user page rather than the subpage.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tony, I tried it with User:TonyTheTiger/5pillars. Seems to work perfect. Which page did you check it on? Have you tried logging on from a different browser and checking if the same issue continues? Thanks, Lourdes 00:48, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


Why is it that every page I edit is added to my watchlist? Even if I'm using Twinkle, stuff gets cluttered up there. Advanced features don't allow me to uncheck anything that could be causing this. Buffaboy talk 19:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

@Buffaboy: In preferences, under editing, there is a checkbox for "Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist". Uncheck that if you don't want all your edits on your watchlist. RudolfRed (talk) 19:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
*RudolfRed That's already unchecked. Buffaboy talk 02:18, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

BLP help?[edit]

Earlier today I posted on Talk:Michael J. Saylor and also at WP:BLP/N about a very large edit to the Michael J. Saylor biography by an account with no prior history. It's duplicative of a controversy already mentioned, a major case of WP:UNDUE weight, with some non-RS sourcing, and I believe should be reverted. I haven't had a reply yet in either place, and considering the BLP implications, am trying here as well to see if someone is willing to consider taking action. Worth noting: I have a COI here, as Saylor's company is a client, hence my requests for an independent editor to review. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 21:15, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 22:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

How to add information[edit]

How can I add a page? I would like to create a page similar to this for someone who is not a politician: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:11, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to Wikipedia. Anybody is welcome to contribute material to Wikipedia, but creating a new article is difficult. I suggest you start by reading your first article. I also suggest that you create an account: it is not compulsory, but it makes various things easier. --ColinFine (talk) 22:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC)


Heading added by ColinFine (talk) 22:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC) I don't have anything to edit. I wanted to donate to your request but had trouble getting the auto prompt to allow me to finish.

Maybe I'm the only one who had any trouble as I don't profess to be very competent online.

Is there another way I can contact you so you can get my donation. It's not a lot $100 + I included the $4 charge.

thank you and well done on your wonderful service.

R Landucci — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:33, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello, R Landucci. Thank you for wanting to donate. Donation isn't anything to do with Wikipedia itself, but to the Wikimedia Foundation, which hosts Wikipedia and other projects. There's a page there about wmf:Problems donating. --ColinFine (talk) 23:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)